Saturday, April 4, 2009

Hitchens - second session

If you make the assumption that religion is man made you will discover:
  • Why there are so many
  • Why they've been such a disappointment to humanity
  • Why they continue to compete with each other
The current circumstances and conflicts of religion is exactly what you would expect if it was made by man.

Emancipate yourself from such a belief.

22 comments:

  1. Also explained by the fall and man being rebellious.

    Dissapointment is not experienced by all of man either.

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  2. Are we talking about religion now?

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  3. How the heck does any of this prove God does not exist?

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  4. Seems to me all Hitch has proven is that, as the Bible says, we should act more like Christ or people will not see our faith.

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  5. Why there are so many - exchanging the truth of God for a lie...
    Why they've been such a disappointment to humanity - again, see Romans 1,2
    Why they continue to compete with each other - cause people are in bondage to sin since the fall...

    Was I supposed to be stumped by those?

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  6. I keep wondering if he's intentionally dancing around the issue or if he really doesn't get it.

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  7. one logical fallacy after another...

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  8. umm God did not create religion...

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  9. So religion can be a very bad thing. This means there is NO GOD!

    The dots aren't connected... the dots are non-existent.

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  10. Completely irrelevant to whether or not God exists....

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  11. 'If you make the assumption that religion is man made you will discover:'

    1) Over-simplication 2) subjective opinion 3) So what? His atheism is just as much a part of the competition.

    And his final comment is an absurd false declaration of victory.

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  13. Just because people cause problems, that doesn't imply that "God is not great"!

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  14. There are weak atheists, strong atheists, activist atheits.

    Just what we would expect if atheism is false.

    QED

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  15. I believe that this is the fallacy of affirming the consequent, for there are other competing views that equally predict the same current circumstances.

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  16. There's a reason why no one tries to counterfeit brown paper bags. Counterfeiters go with the real thing because it's actually worth something.

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  17. If Jesus never committed Apartheid, nor His Church then why accuse Him? And since it is not of Christ, it must be of atheists or some false religion or world-view.

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  18. Asserting that there are many religions is not an argument for the idea that no religion is true.

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  19. I get the first and third points (within the context of an accidental universe), but the second one? How ya' gonna prove that? If I'm a fool, then I'm a very content fool.

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  20. Hitchens is right here (religion is man-made), but it has nothing to do with the topic. If he has a problem with religion then he and Jesus have a lot in common.

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  21. Wait a minute, I would expect a much better argument from someone who people claim is the Top Gun of Atheism, but isn't that a bit too generalized? Disappointment to humanity? How so?
    He's simply taking the view of someone who's extremely cynical, I'm your average college student and even I can come up with a better argument. Not only is he attacking Christianity, but a religion as a whole, but even if he was specifically referring to Christianity, that's like saying all Christians are like Fred Phelps and his gang, there are many different types of Christians and can't be generalized like that.

    What if we assumed religion did not exist? Do you really think a secular world be the answer to a better humanity? Think about this one carefully. Should we assume that if everyone was an atheist, we'd all have a moral compass to do what's good or right?

    Besides bashing religion and for the problems in this world, how does this prove God doesn't exist? Who said the Earth was a completely moral world anyway? It is God's creation that was tainted by sin. Earth is what Heaven and Hell would be if meshed together, there is a inner spiritual war amongst everyone, some have been consumed to each side, some have chosen sides already, whilst some are still engaged in that battle. To say religion is responsible for the problems we face is a huge fallacy, like the bible says, (paraphrasing) there will be false believers who claim to be Christians, they don't count as Christians in my eyes, so sorry Hitchens, you just can't group all of us together.

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