To Craig: I am an atheist and I have meaning in life. You have stated that life is meaningless for the atheist. How can this be?
Craig: My statement is that life is objectively meaningless for the atheist. There is no ultimate purpose - we are all heading toward emptiness and death. You may hold to atheism and feel you have meaning in life, but you cannot point to some ultimate good that you accomplish, since all of reality will eventually die a heat death and there will be nothing more.
Hitchens: What gives meaning to my life is the fact that I am free of false beliefs. I have real liberty. Those "primates" who think they can tell me what to do on the basis of their beliefs. I am free of implausible beliefs. If you ask them really which world they care about, you will find it will be this one because they know this is the only real world there is.
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His life has meaning because he believes something true. Good for him.
ReplyDeletewow... Hitchens has resorted to this.
ReplyDeleteI feel sorry for Hitchens, he has to go to his hotel room and look at himself in the mirror after this poor performance.
ReplyDeletefree of false beliefs? yet you no offer any rebut? weird...
ReplyDeleteWow. Hitch just called his hosts (Biola) and the audience as a whole (compose mostly of Christians, I assume) "Primates." Nice public relations disaster unfolding here.
ReplyDeleteFree of false beliefs, eh? Rather bold.
ReplyDeleteOk... supposing you are right... no false beliefs and you've got your liberty... now what?
ReplyDeleteCraig notes objective meaninglessness and Hitch replies with subjective meaning. How cute.
ReplyDeleteno. it's his modus operandi...
ReplyDeleteThanks Lenny for your good work!
ReplyDeleteToo bad that Hitchens can't see that in his own worldview, there is no truth, there is no value, because even the "truth" he thinks he has and the value are just the cause and effect reactions of the neurons in his brains...
ReplyDeleteAtheists have the highest incidence of suicide of any population segment.
ReplyDeletei'd be curious in the statistical data on that Troy?
ReplyDeleteThose "primates" who think they can tell me what to do on the basis of their beliefs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I&feature=related
Hitch sees "religion" only as a means by which people tell other people how to live their lives. He misses the point of a relationship with God and confuses it with what people have done with "religion". This is actually very sad.
ReplyDeleteHitchens assumes meanging from the unsubstantiated idea that ultimate truth has value in an atheistic universe. However truth is not necessary of value in such a universe. The atheist's own explanation for the existence of religion, should compel him to become religious! Statistically, humanity proves they need religion and can't live without it. To argue that truth is somehow a higher way of living than the "lie" of religion is in itself, a challenging argument to make responsibly. In his universe, there is no truth.
ReplyDeleteCraig should debate Hitchens as much as D'souza does. Maybe Hitchens would eventually just stop
ReplyDeleteHe is free of false beliefs? I thought arrogance was one of his reasons for not believing in Christianity.
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